tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post2698401409519175708..comments2023-05-14T03:03:09.451-05:00Comments on Female Impersonator: Speak up and expect to be dismissed, petulant child.Ameliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-10367151185412613962010-08-28T21:49:04.570-05:002010-08-28T21:49:04.570-05:00Anonymous, I have in fact read an excerpt from Ali...Anonymous, I have in fact read an excerpt from Alinsky's Rules For Radicals (but not the specifics you mentioned).<br /><br />I understand what you're saying, but I think navigating those ideas is difficult, especially when the burden is placed on the disadvantaged person to make all the adjustments. When I'm being put into situations in which I am already being tuned out because of my age, I find it difficult to accept that it's solely my responsibility to make changes to my behavior.<br /><br />This may not help my immediate goal of educating people and being able to speak my mind and be listened to, but it strikes at the root of a larger problem in which some older people sometimes feel entitled.<br /><br />But until that larger problem is solved, I take your suggestions seriously, but somewhat grudgingly.Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-84005122826490325982010-08-28T17:30:22.182-05:002010-08-28T17:30:22.182-05:00Have you ever read Saul Alinsky's Rules for Ra...Have you ever read Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals? It's an oldie but goodie. I mention it here, because, in an only slightly indirect way, he gets at the very issue you're describing. <br /><br />The problem he poses is how (generally young, progressive) activists can be effective organizing people unlike themselves. He explains that most young activists he talked with (this is in the 1960s) went into working class communities dressed like hippies and presenting their ideas in a way that, however well intentioned, came across as unfamiliar or aggressive to the older and more staid folks they encountered. Unsurprisingly, they got poor results and were often received with hostility. Alinsky's solution was simple: meet them where they are, speak to them in their own language. He explains this more crisply and profoundly than I do.<br /><br />This sounds a lot like your situation: you find yourself trying to interact with people very unlike yourself around political ideas. The way you present yourself and those ideas can have a big impact on how they (and you) are received. Now I'm not saying that you need to act all cute and girly and deferential, and I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't stick to your guns. But it does sound like you'd find more success with folks like this if you took some of Alinsky's advice and found a way to speak your mind that older people could be more easily receptive to.<br /><br />That said, these two sound like jerks, and I'm sorry you had to deal with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-41423651173402271562010-08-22T17:04:29.586-05:002010-08-22T17:04:29.586-05:00got here via Feministe.
I know people my age have...got here via Feministe.<br /><br />I know people my age have problems being gracious when confronted with different ideas from younger people because they don't socialize with younger people and a lot of people are not used to explaining/defending their ideas. They feel challenged by people willing to assert ideas out of the mainstream. I agree you are being brushed off by people who's attitude are unlikely to change. If it was, they would approach you to discuss your ideas after thinking about your points. They don't want to cause themselves discomfort by thinking about whether you have a point. <br /><br />Unfortunately, if you were a tall, dark (haired not skinned) and hansom young man you would be less likely to run up against this type of dismissal. The problem is theirs not yours.Cass Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562393261839375741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-3294608411098442332010-08-11T08:04:43.408-05:002010-08-11T08:04:43.408-05:00Amelia- I am so sorry you had these experiences. I...Amelia- I am so sorry you had these experiences. I think being young, and especially a young woman, gives people an excuse, not a reason to patronize you. <br /><br />In both of those situations people had their worldview questioned by someone younger and, since they obviously didn't want to change their behavior, used your age as an excuse for ignoring your arguments. <br /><br />Again, it sucks that you were belittled because of your age (especially considering at 21 YOU ARE AN ADULT). I have never experienced ageism this blatant, but unfortunately, I think most outspoken young women have been patronized by adult.Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13968935965317086952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-2095918785019384112010-08-10T18:22:12.248-05:002010-08-10T18:22:12.248-05:00I'm happy you found your way over here. :) I h...I'm happy you found your way over here. :) I have some awesome writers here that help pick up my slack. Hope you enjoy your stay!Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-265301046401800792010-08-10T13:52:22.073-05:002010-08-10T13:52:22.073-05:00*waves from feministe*
Hi...I'm here and hook...*waves from feministe*<br /><br />Hi...I'm here and hooked now.<br /><br />*goes to read archives*Sunsetnoreply@blogger.com