tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post4216101300101887620..comments2023-05-14T03:03:09.451-05:00Comments on Female Impersonator: First "plus-size" Top Model wears a size 8, cannot shop in plus-size storesAmeliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-84024309860277591832011-06-26T12:15:38.731-05:002011-06-26T12:15:38.731-05:00Ennui,
my name is angela. I am 13 years old, 5'...Ennui,<br />my name is angela. I am 13 years old, 5'5, and 157 lbs. it is not my fault I am considered fat or overweight. as I was growing up my family would feed me certain foods that were not the right choices for my body. it is very hard to resist from something you grew up with just with a snap oof a finger. last year I became a vegetarian and this helped me with my bmi control. people have certain problems with their body; for example my body is unable to process juices or trans fat and use it for energy. I found out this is true to 60% of women, although almost 40% of them do not know of this yet. maybe people have a defect like this. or maybe they just have a low metabolism and their body doesn't respond to dieting and excercise as quickly as others do, such as models. <br />another thing. I would just like to clear things up for u. the reason why we say the models are starving themselves are because they look like the weight of themselves do not seem to match their height which would create a healthy bmi. if they looked healthy yet slim, they would probably have muscle, but there is none u can see. too achieve looking this thin without excercise or muscle mass would have to be starving yourself, or eating very little. THIS is what hurts us most: having to starve ourselves just to look like the everyday model, to be recognized as 'healthy, slim, sexy' which is why we are against looking like that, so that we can push in to society that this is unhealthy. <br />what's wrong with a size 8 girl? maybe she has a lot of muscle mass, big bones? maybe she's 6 feet? you can't judge a girl by a size, let alone knowing what she looks like..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-43120831237651751702009-08-24T11:55:53.995-05:002009-08-24T11:55:53.995-05:00"Let us all eat diets devoid of sugar, bread,..."Let us all eat diets devoid of sugar, bread, and fat so we can be as miserable happy as starving beautiful Hayden!"<br /><br />I wish I had seen this a year ago. I will not explain the intricacies of the hormonal response of the human body. You can go look that up on your own. I will, however, say that yes, you should curb your intake of sugar and bread. These two carbohydrates are the worst type of carbohydrates you can consume, devoid of any nutritional value, and capable only of stimulating pleasure receptors in your brain and ultimately leading you towards developing diabetes. Fat, on the other hand, is good for you, provided to stay away from the saturated kind. <br /><br />And quit it with the bullshit about the ideal weight for a woman. The ideal weight for anyone is a complete and utter lack of EXCESS.HealthyEaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-42708515885990305632008-10-22T17:32:00.000-05:002008-10-22T17:32:00.000-05:00”Lol, well, not to put too fine a point on it, it'...”Lol, well, not to put too fine a point on it, it's not society's fault if someone consumes 6000 calories a day.”<BR/><BR/>Personally I have always believed that ever action has a reaction despite it being a “good” or “bad” action.<BR/><BR/>Many people do not consider the results of there actions, they talk without concern of who may be listening; it is important to remember that we live in a society of mixed races, genders, weight ranges, emotional structure and religious backgrounds’.<BR/><BR/>So, In a way, it is societies fault; the typical TV boast-about behaviour we see corrupts and affects many people in a variety of ways. When we see images of apparent-perfection it is a natural human instinct to evaluate ones self-worth, and by doing so we can further the damage done to our spirit.<BR/>This can result in: Psychology Disorders (I.e. Depression)<BR/>Most things in life will require you keep a healthy attitude, so naturally if you feel worthless then ultimately your day-to-day life will reflect the way you feel.<BR/>This is where the surrounding society does not help!<BR/>On another note;<BR/>It is important to remember that the Body Mass Index is only a guide, it doesn’t take things like muscle mass, fat distribution or metabolism into consideration.<BR/><BR/>Now, eating a healthy, balanced diet is GREAT, there’s nothing wrong with eating right or exercising. But! I would not go so far as to say or even suggest that ‘fat’ alone in large or small quantities is significantly unhealthy. Fat has its purposes just like every-other natural human substance.<BR/><BR/>I haven’t had the chance to read every-single comment, so I will assume this has been said - but I will say it again.<BR/><BR/>I cannot emphasize this enough; EVERYBODY, regardless of age, sex, weight, colour or creed deserves kindness and respect, we are all human; our spirit can be very fragile one wrong word in the wrong place could tip someone over the edge and push them toward a degenerate state-of-mind. <BR/><BR/>Always be mindful of a persons feelings and consider the results of all your actions.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I realise how old this thread is, I'm a cherry picker for blog/statements :PAusrineAurorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05358147062175690899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-87598286026550958832008-06-29T21:25:00.000-05:002008-06-29T21:25:00.000-05:00Thanks...Dave KionArticleThanks...<BR/><BR/>Dave Kion<BR/><A HREF="http://article.ezedir.com" REL="nofollow">Article</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-82303519717883815562008-05-26T00:02:00.000-05:002008-05-26T00:02:00.000-05:00yeah that's just "entitlement" and it's selfish an...yeah that's just "entitlement" and it's selfish and won't get a person anywhere in life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-13886974708534990272008-05-20T12:59:00.000-05:002008-05-20T12:59:00.000-05:00See, the problem I see with calling her a plus-siz...See, the problem I see with calling her a plus-size model is that it puts too much emphasize on the label. It takes away from the woman. Who cares what size she wears? Who cares what "label" she has? She is obviously good at what she does - she won this competition. People are focusing too much on what to call her, not on what she has accomplished.<BR/><BR/>Also, this might be better suited for the other thread, but promoting "fat acceptance" is not the same, for me anyway, as saying that fat = healthy. I do not actually know very many specifics about what certain medical experts, whathaveyou, consider "healthy" as far as body weight, BMI, go. <BR/><BR/>Fat acceptance for me is the same as saying I am not going to assume that because someone weighs more than me, they are lazy, they are stupid, they are unhealthy. Because I don't know these things.<BR/><BR/>It's all about judgment calls for me. I try very hard not to judge anyone based solely on their appearance.Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-76882943676960797352008-05-20T12:46:00.000-05:002008-05-20T12:46:00.000-05:00That's just the thing. The medical community does ...<I>That's just the thing. The medical community does not agree. As you'd know if you'd bothered to follow up on any of her sources.<BR/><BR/>But why am I feeding a troll? Liked the blog, but I'm not gonna follow this thread anymore. Ennui is ennuyeux.</I><BR/><BR/>Like I said, you can deny it, but you come off sounding like tobacco companies claiming that they had no idea that smoking caused health problems.<BR/><BR/>If you take two people of similar lifestyles, be it sedentary or active; one thin, one fat, the fat one will *always* be less healthy.<BR/><BR/>For instance, I just came from the store. In this store, was a woman so obese that she was riding around in a motorized cart, and only standing up to occasionally look at a shelf.<BR/><BR/>Now, are you telling me there's nothing wrong with that, that medical science is wrong, and that she's totally healthy? <BR/><BR/>Point is, being overweight is not healthy. There's no way to argue that fact. When you do, you just sound ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>Obesity is cardiovascular disease, lack of energy, shortness of breath, kidney problems, diabetes, damage to the joints, and more.<BR/><BR/>There is no need to eat until absolutely stuffed with every meal. Many fat people claim that they just "gain weight" and they "can't help it", and that all they do is "eat until they're full".<BR/><BR/>Well, funny thing, if you eat until stuffed at every meal, eventually your stomach expands, and requires more food to become full, and repeat this, and you get fat.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing healthy about obesity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-39743742924368013672008-05-20T12:40:00.000-05:002008-05-20T12:40:00.000-05:00I'm glad you enjoyed our blog, llenclyn, and I hop...I'm glad you enjoyed our blog, llenclyn, and I hope you continue to read despite some of the less friendly comments.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00139058825727884888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-58009507911511151052008-05-20T12:29:00.000-05:002008-05-20T12:29:00.000-05:00"Deny that, and you deny medical fact, agreed upon..."Deny that, and you deny medical fact, agreed upon by thousands upon thousands upon further thousands of medical professionals."<BR/><BR/>That's just the thing. The medical community does <I>not</I> agree. As you'd know if you'd bothered to follow up on any of her sources.<BR/><BR/>But why am I feeding a troll? Liked the blog, but I'm not gonna follow this thread anymore. Ennui is <I>ennuyeux</I>.Jamie Bougherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198950584501536101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-9043217731008988772008-05-20T12:00:00.000-05:002008-05-20T12:00:00.000-05:00I'm a bit late to the thread, but to anyone (mostl...<I>I'm a bit late to the thread, but to anyone (mostly the trolls) who's saying fat is unhealthy, or who doesn't know how to respond to that, check out this post by Kate Harding at Shapely Prose.<BR/><BR/>Fat myths debunked! Also Kate Harding has snark down to a fine art. ^_^<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Actually, recent news stories have shown that those "fat myths debunked", have in fact, been debunked.<BR/><BR/>Fat is unhealthy. Even a slight bit of extra weight puts you in danger of diabetes, kidney problems, heart diseases, damaged joints, etcetera.<BR/><BR/>The people advocating "healthy at any size" or "You can be fat and healthy" are generally, you know, wrong.<BR/><BR/>Besides which, I trust the word of medical professionals such as doctors, over an overweight woman blogging for "fat acceptance", on issues of health and weight.<BR/><BR/>Naturally, someone who is overweight is going to spend time and energy getting everyone to believe that fat isn't unhealthy, as it's less work than losing weight.<BR/><BR/>Also, the "diets don't work" line, is well, garbage.<BR/><BR/>Diets work fine. It's the people doing them, that don't understand that a change in diet is meant to be a PERMANENT change in diet. Not diet til you lose weight, then go back to sucking down extra large milkshakes and triple cheeseburgers.<BR/><BR/>Point is, you cannot debate the nature of it. Fat is unhealthy. Period. <BR/><BR/>Deny that, and you deny medical fact, agreed upon by thousands upon thousands upon further thousands of medical professionals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-44467205919693633842008-05-20T10:12:00.000-05:002008-05-20T10:12:00.000-05:00Deleted Spartan's comment because I felt it was fu...Deleted Spartan's comment because I felt it was full of unnecessary hostility. Which I don't want to be part of the comment threads here.<BR/><BR/>Feel free, Spartan, to rewrite your comment and re-submit it. Possibly without calling names. <BR/><BR/>Thanks. :)Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-8554372780677097722008-05-20T10:02:00.000-05:002008-05-20T10:02:00.000-05:00I'm a bit late to the thread, but to anyone (mostl...I'm a bit late to the thread, but to anyone (mostly the trolls) who's saying fat is unhealthy, or who doesn't know how to respond to that, check out <A HREF="http://kateharding.net/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/" REL="nofollow">this post</A> by Kate Harding at <A HREF="http://kateharding.net/" REL="nofollow">Shapely Prose</A>.<BR/><BR/>Fat myths debunked! Also Kate Harding has snark down to a fine art. ^_^Jamie Bougherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198950584501536101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-12026130212486821702008-05-20T07:24:00.000-05:002008-05-20T07:24:00.000-05:00One of the many sad things about this -- not the l...One of the many sad things about this -- not the least of which is a screwed-up modeling world that considers sizes 8 and 10 to be "plus size" -- is the fact that even orgs like the Feminist Majority Foundation get in on the act of shaming plus-size women. Just try finding some of their cute activist-wear (This is what a feminist looks like! PS - no fat chicks) in larger sizes.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415155948577364954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-20257250010365361282008-05-20T00:33:00.000-05:002008-05-20T00:33:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.The Spartanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03618332681595018872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-63506326343840736532008-05-19T20:48:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:48:00.000-05:00Look, I posted your comment, Coyote, even though t...Look, I posted your comment, Coyote, even though the way you have treated the comment threads on this blog has been no kinder than the treatment you have gotten in return.<BR/><BR/>It was incredibly disrespectful to spam our blog, so really, since you have not offered an apology for that unbelievably rude offense, you should feel lucky to be allowed to comment here.Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-85255481821029401042008-05-19T20:39:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:39:00.000-05:00"Coyote Skinhead, as a guest you have no right to ..."Coyote Skinhead, as a guest you have no right to come into someone's personal space and pollute it with spam, nor do you have any right to not be silenced in someone's personal space. Ennui is already a known troll from Feministing and you have more than proven that you don't deserve the privilege of commenting here either."<BR/><BR/>"Coyote Skinhead, you really consider yourself a guest in her home, posting the same comment 20 times in a row is the equivalent to pulling down your pants and peeing on her sofa. You're not helping your case, you're demonstrating you're incapable of carrying on a rational discussion."<BR/><BR/>No one, what-so-ever, has the right to treat me unfairly at any time or any place. Ennui and myself were threatened with violence, insulted, called names, and offensive statements were said to us. None of those comments were deleted, however, our comments were deleted for being "patronizing". The is unfair.<BR/><BR/>And no one has the right to treat me unfairly, and no one has the right to silence my voice when I speak out against being treated unfairly.<BR/><BR/>Yes. If I'm in your house, and you treat me with such disrespect, I guess I will pee on your sofa.<BR/><BR/>Don't like it? Then treat me with respect.<BR/><BR/>It's wholly stupid, and irrational, to think that you can insult someone and treat them unfairly and they won't do anything about it. Hey, isn't that what feminism is about?<BR/><BR/>Such hypocrisy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-78727618408694180832008-05-19T11:37:00.000-05:002008-05-19T11:37:00.000-05:00I was watching this last night and the one thing I...I was watching this last night and the one thing I kept thinking was "who, exactly, is she going to model for?" Because she sure as shit ain't "plus-size" which I believe equals a size 14 and up. And as much as I wish things were different, no mainstream modeling agency or designer is going to be able to use her. Clothes are designed and sent out to magazines to be photographed in teeny tiny sizes or plus sizes, depending on the audience. Dior is not making size 8s for advertising.<BR/><BR/>Which gave me yet another reason to hate the fashion industry - there's no place for the average woman. If you're a size 00 and pretty, you can model, and if you're a size 14 and pretty, you can model. Everyone in between is fucked. Hell, I'm a size 0 as it is but nowhere near a stick, and I guarantee I'd be told to lose 10 or 20 pounds if I traipsed into a modeling agency looking for work. <BR/><BR/>My mom had this brilliant insight though: "oh, whatever. The next time you see her, Whitney will have dropped 30 pounds." Probably true, ma.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-81755861831120443912008-05-19T08:51:00.000-05:002008-05-19T08:51:00.000-05:00nor do you have any right to not be silenced in so...<I>nor do you have any right to not be silenced in someone's personal space. </I><BR/><BR/>The internet is a public space. Putting things on it and making them public, stops it from being a personal, private space.<BR/><BR/><I>Ennui is already a known troll from Feministing </I><BR/><BR/>Again, as already stated, <I>I don't know what a Feministing is</I>.<BR/><BR/><I>The only person they could potentially be harming is themselves. </I><BR/><BR/>Actually, as I pointed out earlier: When they consume more, more animals have to be used for them, more land for crops, more land for what the animals graze, more fuel to transport the food, and ultimately, more tax dollars for their healthcare.<BR/><BR/>It has fairly far-reaching impact.<BR/><BR/>Also, if you wanted to split hairs, heart disease is (last time I checked) the number one cause of death in this country. If you have friends, relatives, any sort of family, when you die, you place a burden on those people. Especially when you die early.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-2872792764278487282008-05-19T06:24:00.000-05:002008-05-19T06:24:00.000-05:00Coyote Skinhead, you really consider yourself a gu...Coyote Skinhead, you really consider yourself a guest in her home, posting the same comment 20 times in a row is the equivalent to pulling down your pants and peeing on her sofa. You're not helping your case, you're demonstrating you're incapable of carrying on a rational discussion.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous above - just because you want to label someone a troll in order to discredit them doesn't mean they actually are. As long as they're being reasonably respectful and arguing about the issues instead of making personal attacks, you can't really attack them. People aren't trolls just because they disagree with the majority opinion on the site. Being a regular on Feministing, surrounded by very like-minded people, tends to give people a very insular perspective that doesn't react well to opposing views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-63731258433232186042008-05-19T05:40:00.000-05:002008-05-19T05:40:00.000-05:00It's just wrong to make fun of Hayden's weight as ...It's just wrong to make fun of Hayden's weight as it is to make fun of ANYONE'S weight. Shame on you, you big hypocrite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-42835425305880489292008-05-19T03:26:00.000-05:002008-05-19T03:26:00.000-05:00I'm disgusted by those who regard bigger people as...I'm disgusted by those who regard bigger people as slobs who should be scorned for their lack of self control. I'm quite convinced that the propensity to gain weight and eat more is not pure choice, and rather is a combined product of genetics, environment, and lifestyle. But let's assume that they are fat because they simply "choose" not to exert control. Should they then be considered gross and immoral? NO. The only person they could potentially be harming is themselves. And I find it completely reasonable to request that people to then judge you based solely on your looks. <BR/>And by the way- for those who may propose that I'm making excuses for myself- I am an individual who would be considered "underweight" by the BMI, and I did not choose to be this way. I don't try to restrict the amount I eat, I just have a different metabolism, and a different appetite. Should I be admonished for not exerting proper self control and not eating enough?<BR/>And I'm a feminist. I must hate myself for being thin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-34038672555560003472008-05-19T00:38:00.000-05:002008-05-19T00:38:00.000-05:00Coyote Skinhead, as a guest you have no right to c...Coyote Skinhead, as a guest you have no right to come into someone's personal space and pollute it with spam, nor do you have any right to not be silenced in someone's <B>personal</B> space. Ennui is already a known troll from Feministing and you have more than proven that you don't deserve the <B>privilege</B> of commenting here either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-52414793971549772512008-05-18T23:13:00.003-05:002008-05-18T23:13:00.003-05:00Seriously.I find it very rude how you delete my co...Seriously.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments.<BR/><BR/>I don't give a damn if it's your blog.<BR/><BR/>As long as I am here, I am a guest in your home.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments, no matter what they say, and then try to make me look bad by saying something like "Coyote, that was very offensive and insulting." even if I hadn't even said anything insulting!<BR/><BR/>This isn't about feminism anymore, or about rights.<BR/><BR/>It's about how you have treated Ennui and myself as guests in your house, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>If this is how you treat men who come into your world... do you ever expect to be taken seriously or have your "issues" coddled and fixed by men?<BR/><BR/><B>I am calling you out right now. Why is it okay for people to threaten us with violence, and call us names, but we're not even allowed to be "patronizing" without being chastised?</B><BR/><BR/><B><I>Tell me now, I really want to know. Don't avoid the issue. Answer it.</B></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-91154888259465393762008-05-18T23:13:00.002-05:002008-05-18T23:13:00.002-05:00Seriously.I find it very rude how you delete my co...Seriously.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments.<BR/><BR/>I don't give a damn if it's your blog.<BR/><BR/>As long as I am here, I am a guest in your home.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments, no matter what they say, and then try to make me look bad by saying something like "Coyote, that was very offensive and insulting." even if I hadn't even said anything insulting!<BR/><BR/>This isn't about feminism anymore, or about rights.<BR/><BR/>It's about how you have treated Ennui and myself as guests in your house, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>If this is how you treat men who come into your world... do you ever expect to be taken seriously or have your "issues" coddled and fixed by men?<BR/><BR/><B>I am calling you out right now. Why is it okay for people to threaten us with violence, and call us names, but we're not even allowed to be "patronizing" without being chastised?</B><BR/><BR/><B><I>Tell me now, I really want to know. Don't avoid the issue. Answer it.</B></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-68374401241203828352008-05-18T23:13:00.001-05:002008-05-18T23:13:00.001-05:00Seriously.I find it very rude how you delete my co...Seriously.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments.<BR/><BR/>I don't give a damn if it's your blog.<BR/><BR/>As long as I am here, I am a guest in your home.<BR/><BR/>I find it very rude how you delete my comments, no matter what they say, and then try to make me look bad by saying something like "Coyote, that was very offensive and insulting." even if I hadn't even said anything insulting!<BR/><BR/>This isn't about feminism anymore, or about rights.<BR/><BR/>It's about how you have treated Ennui and myself as guests in your house, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>If this is how you treat men who come into your world... do you ever expect to be taken seriously or have your "issues" coddled and fixed by men?<BR/><BR/><B>I am calling you out right now. Why is it okay for people to threaten us with violence, and call us names, but we're not even allowed to be "patronizing" without being chastised?</B><BR/><BR/><B><I>Tell me now, I really want to know. Don't avoid the issue. Answer it.</B></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com