tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post639121635818038583..comments2023-05-14T03:03:09.451-05:00Comments on Female Impersonator: Why isn't violence against women a hate crime?Ameliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-86318722666456223652009-03-11T17:26:00.000-05:002009-03-11T17:26:00.000-05:00Actually, I am against the use of "hate crime" ter...Actually, I am against the use of "hate crime" terminology and implementation in judicial cases. Most violent crime is committed out of hate. To brand certain brands of our own savagery against some but not all would simply cheapen the plight of everyone who's case was deemed not a "hate crime". <BR/><BR/>My main beef with the question posed is, would attacking a man on the basis of his gender also be a hate crime? In the purest sense of the term, yes, but since society is dominated by an overbearing patriarchal system of control, does that justify increased hostile prosecution of a man's assailant based on grounds that it was an act of bigotry?<BR/><BR/>Are minority groups and the disenfranchised capable of being bigots, too? Or only those traits perceived as culturally dominant, whites, men, Christians... <BR/><BR/>I do not see it this way. If we wish for a society that executes equality among all peoples, we must first realize that we are all equal in our capacity to harm, to offend, and to commit acts of bigotry. Any minority status does not exempt us from this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-74386262489302466162009-02-27T09:28:00.000-06:002009-02-27T09:28:00.000-06:00I'm not sure, Liz. Because from you say, wouldn't ...I'm not sure, Liz. Because from you say, wouldn't it also not matter if someone committed a pre-meditated murder, etc.? Currently in our court system, that is taken into account for crimes, too.Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-51978124748613310212009-02-27T03:38:00.000-06:002009-02-27T03:38:00.000-06:00The whole concept of a hate crime is completely fl...The whole concept of a hate crime is completely flawed. If I, say, kill someone because of their race, then I should be prosecuted and punished according to my actions, not my thoughts. So what if you harm someone because of their race/gender/sexual orientation or simply because they were there at the time? It shouldn't matter, unless you want to make thinking nasty thoughts a crime as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-13877939402099907602009-02-26T18:52:00.000-06:002009-02-26T18:52:00.000-06:00@anonI should have been more clear in my original ...@anon<BR/><BR/>I should have been more clear in my original post. I'm talking about violence against women done specifically because the person is a woman. If you notice, the links I provided were to specific examples of violence against women because they were women (shootings of the Amish girls, incidents of throwing acid on schoolgirls in Afghanistan). <BR/><BR/>In hate crimes now, prosecutors have to prove that the crime was committed because of bias against race, sexual orientation, etc. It would be no different for gender. <BR/><BR/>I don't think all violence against women would fall under hate crimes (although one could argue that American society teaches us that women are less-than and all violence against women is a form of a hate crime - I'm not 100% buying this argument, though). However, there is some violence done specifically because the victims are women, and that should be protected under hate crimes.lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285797515594923013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-88668343337536606842009-02-26T16:40:00.000-06:002009-02-26T16:40:00.000-06:00Why isn't violence against women a hate crime? Bec...Why isn't violence against women a hate crime? Because it's the basis of our mainstream, pornogrified culture. Because males love it. Because females are raised to groove on it. Because males and their minions make the laws.Mary Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220872907492699782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-78989036942383365042009-02-26T16:02:00.000-06:002009-02-26T16:02:00.000-06:00Why isn't violence against women considered a hate...<I>Why isn't violence against women considered a hate crime?</I><BR/><BR/>Because that would be illegal. Separate and unequal punishment for the same crime.<BR/><BR/>For instance, if I punch a man, it's simple assault, a minor charge. Then, if I punch a woman, it's a hate crime, carrying an incredibly stiff penalty? No.<BR/><BR/>It's why things such as the VAWA are treading dangerous waters, because you're giving special privileges to a gender that's supposed to be equal.<BR/><BR/>If men and women are equal, you cannot give special protections under the law TO women.<BR/><BR/>The ACLU would have a field day with any attempt to make violence against women a hate crime.<BR/><BR/>Also, especially considering that over 70% of victims of violent crime are men, not women, it would be highly illogical to give special protection to women.<BR/><BR/>To argue FOR special protections under the law for women would be anti-feminist, much in the way of "benevolent sexism", where it assumes women are special fragile creatures that need to be protected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com